Biggest Vape Bust Ever: Unraveling the Impact on Cannabis and Vaping Industries

In an unprecedented move, the “Biggest Vape Bust Ever” has shaken the cannabis and vaping industries. The FDA’s recent $86.5 million seizure of illegal e-cigarettes marks a pivotal moment, highlighting ongoing attempts to enforce regulations and mitigate illegal cannabis activities. This blog post delves into the ramifications of this monumental action, exploring how it aligns with broader policy shifts and the impact it has on the industry.

Unpacking the Biggest Vape Bust Ever

The Seizure: A Landmark Enforcement Action

The FDA’s decisive crackdown unveiled a staggering array of illicit e-cigarettes predominantly sourced from China. These products were misclassified as hemp to evade federal restrictions, representing a considerable breach in the regulated market. The sheer scale of this bust underscores government concerns about uncontrolled hemp product distribution disguised as legal marijuana.

The International Connection: China’s Role

The seized products, worth millions, trace back to Chinese manufacturers—a focal point for ongoing scrutiny. As the U.S. grapples with tightening its cannabis regulations, this seizure reflects broader anxieties about foreign influences and the need for stricter oversight on imported products.

Regulatory Reactions and Industry Implications

FDA and Homeland Security’s Intensified Efforts

This massive bust aligns with increased federal efforts to regulate the cannabis and vaping industries. The joint actions of the FDA and Homeland Security signal a robust crackdown on illegal operations connected to international supply chains, with particular emphasis on Chinese links.

Impact on the Cannabis Policy Landscape

This development coincides with various legislative proposals and the potential reshaping of hemp rules at both the state and federal levels. Texas and Missouri are examining tighter controls, while debates continue over Schedule Three marijuana rescheduling—a subject closely tied to preventing similar market abuses in the future.

Future Considerations and Policy Directions

Addressing the Hemp Loophole

The “Biggest Vape Bust Ever” highlights crucial gaps in hemp regulations, urging policymakers to reconsider the current legal framework. Ensuring that legal and illicit products are distinctly separated is paramount to safeguarding the industry’s integrity.

The Need for Comprehensive Federal Guidelines

The ongoing enforcement actions raise calls for more comprehensive federal guidelines that clearly delineate legal boundaries for cannabis and vape products. By effectively addressing these issues, the industry can move towards greater transparency and consumer safety.

Call to Action: Stay Informed and Engaged

The “Biggest Vape Bust Ever” serves as a wake-up call for industry participants, consumers, and regulators alike. Stay informed with our podcast and blog for real-time updates on these critical developments. Join us in advocating for clear, fair regulations that support both business innovation and public health.

Transcript:

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Uh, we have a pretty interesting thumbnail, uh, like game over. Uh, why are we saying that it’s not necessarily clickbait? There was just like a lot of bad news this week when it came to cannabis and other stuff. Uh, of course we’re gonna stay in our lane and just talk about the cannabis news. That was pretty darn bad.

Uh, we have a conspiracy theory that we’re gonna kind of suss out over the course of the first few minutes. Uh, we will dive into the Texas hemp, uh, uh, executive order that came out. Uh, we will actually provide some commentary as to why there will be lawsuits and how meritorious there’ll be, uh, that’s kind of been glaringly absent from the other YouTubers that are out there.

And, uh, you know, motion to blaze granted. That’s right. I also, uh, got some merch for the, the channel. You’ll be able to see some of those. I have, uh, another video in the works, but I wanna see how something goes on Tuesday. We’re gonna talk about it. Evidently, they may blame China for the hemp loophole and, uh, also elicit trade and then use that.

Well, we’ll get into it. We’ll get into it. Let’s start the program. Bring on mgi and talk to it. Hopefully everybody had a great week. That was cannabis legalization. September 14th, 2025.

Hey, what up? Your captain speaking or legalization will be in a holding pattern. The

organization may be in a slight holding pattern, uh, that, that there was a couple of stories that came out this week that you’re just like, boy, that’s some bad news. And, um, first one, the Department of Justice announced it’s withdrawing dozens of proposed rules.

DOJ Withdraws Proposed Rules

Now, before we get into the bad news, let’s say some good news, good news, everybody, um, one of these proposed new, uh, rulemaking, it was not Schedule three marijuana. They did not yank the rug out of that. They did do, uh, quite a few like, uh, the medical marijuana Cannabinol Research Expansion Act and the analytical labs in hemp.

Uh, they, they yanked some of that rulemaking, uh, that was out there for them. And then, uh, it created some confusion because one hemp rules shared regulation identifier numbers with ongoing marijuana rescheduling process that was not yanked from this. Uh, so the DA withdrawals, according to them, are part of the federal government’s deregulatory initiative, uh, because of ongoing assessments of agents need priorities and objectives, which that seems sounds nice, but also, uh, you know, like one of those answers, it’s not really an answer.

You’re just like, you are in policy, aren’t you? Uh, and so that’s, that’s interesting. Yeah. But that hemp proposal would’ve waived registration requirements for analytical labs that perform chemical analysis solely on hemp samples produced pursuant to in A-U-S-D-A approved hemp production plan. Uh, and so the, but the main thing is all of these rules that are out there regarding hemp and these other things that have been yanked.

It did not yank the notice of proposed rulemaking for schedule three.

Right on. So it, it still has to happen. Is that, I mean, the meeting, the, the, the trial, whatever, fucking what, what, how is this gonna happen? Like as far as like the, uh, stopping, it’s kind of funny to see something called deregulation, but when we need regulation for this plant, you know what I mean?

Right. Like we need rules. Like hemp has

like no rules already. It’s like it is dereg. You have no rules. It’s tested a month before you harvest it. That’s it. That’s the hemp rules.

But you, it’s frustrating though, like everybody’s gonna be like, oh well farm Bill, may we leave, tell out to fucking Frank Rogers, who I just spoke to this morning, who’s been sitting down on his 12th year, like for weed, right? Like kids are selling TUCA, bro. Hey, it’s only him. Yeah. Well what are you doing for the guys that are locked up?

Right? Nothing. You know, what are you doing for the laws that are on the books? Nothing. Yeah, nothing. Even when I, I was talking to Frank, I was like, look man, once, let’s say rescheduling happens and more processes for like legalization to be a thing federally, you’re still not gonna be fucking let out, bro.

Like, you still gotta do the paperwork like there’s gonna. Paths. Right? That’s protections and paths is what we need, you know? Yeah. We don’t get that with the 2018 Farm Bill and some shitty, uh, hemp. We, you know, I, I, no, that’s

only production. It’s only production tested a month before you harvest it. There are no rules after it’s harvested.

House GOP Blocks Cannabis Rescheduling

Yeah. But, uh, our next story then, so, okay, well, uh, that first story did, they didn’t yank any of the schedule three stuff, but then the second story, house, GOP moves forward on blocking Trump administration’s power to reschedule cannabis. And so it’s like, all right, well, hey, we’re not trying to use our executive powers to derail the rulemaking process that is schedule three.

We’re gonna let Congress do that. And that was the, um, commerce, justice, science and related Agency appropriations bill that passed 34 28. And it includes language preventing the DOJ from using federal funds to remove Schedule one classification under the Controlled Substances Act, and effectively creating a new law on top of the Controlled Substances Act.

Mm-hmm. Reinforcing marijuana must stay schedule one, irrespective of the mechanics that are actually in the Controlled Substances Act granted to the DEA and DOJ, uh, to reschedule a substance. I

don’t think that’s gonna have a lot of teeth. Like, like even though these guys, because of just the way, the way this administration runs, right?

Like they just kind of like, uh, you’re a national hero in my eyes. Now you become like. Good. You know what I mean? Like there’s, they’re just making shit up like this whole time. So like, if legalization was really a, a fucking passion or, uh, you know, like a desire, right? Something that, for the people that, that, uh, that’s fair.

Uh, you know, the, the rules would start working, but no, no, these guys are just like stalling and, and the, you know, delay, uh, deny. Deny. Yeah. Hey, well that say we got this, uh, news from the F FDA as well, man, with the rd want to continue on, on with the, uh, the blockage, the cock box,

uh, the blockage aspect of it that could end up how Rand Paul said no, uh, because it’s getting into the, the appropriations bill and so anybody can object to it.

And so any of the members of Congress can object to it. And remember, like there was only nine members of Congress out of like 535 that signed on to that, uh, letter to say, stop rescheduling. So I, I think that this, uh, blockage has less of a chance than, uh, the reclassification, uh, or the redefinition of hemp does because the redefinition of hemp.

You know, stay, stay tuned to our Ron Paul, uh, Rand Paul, uh, story later in the broadcast. But, uh, there just doesn’t seem to be like a lot of there, there for their crap. However, there does seem to be a lot for, uh, the schedule three, especially when we get into our next two stories. And our next two stories really start talking about what they call, uh, CT o TCOs.

Uh, and so we’re gonna start talking about TCOs. Yes, it’s an acronym that we will get into once the new story starts.

Okay, you wanted the, the HSSC pbcs, 86.5 million worth of illegal e-cigarettes and largest ever operation’s. This is coming from Food and Drug Administration’s, uh, website,

FDA Seizes $86.5M in Illegal E-Cigarettes

right? And so they aren’t just sending dunning letters to the hamsters anymore.

Now they are going to Chicago to openly yank almost 70, right? 68.5 million. Yeah, almost $70 million worth of products directly from, uh, China. And they say that most of these were the hemp products, the hemp vapes that they classified as marijuana. And so 4.7 million units of unauthorized e-cigarettes that are to them trafficking in a schedule one substance.

Because the DEA has never really gotten on board with the hemp blue poll. No. No. And, and yeah. And so like, that’s why they kind of yanked this stuff and why Pam Bondy, the Attorney General was there giving that press conference on September 10th. And then there was like some other big news that kind of drowned all this stuff out and got some Epstein files also out of the, uh, mainstream media.

And we started talking about somebody else.

I

dunno what you’re talking about. Just saying,

I dunno what you’re talking about. But, you know, dude, this action though, uh, this is why I always say like, when, when people don’t know what they’re getting their hemp from because, uh, you know, that’s the big thing here, right?

It’s a China. Right. It all came from 7 million. Is that what it was? 70 million worth? It was, it was 4.7

million units. $70 million. There you go. 80. Oh, I’m sorry, 86.5 million. I I saw it as 68.5. My bad. I I got those two numbers mixed up.

Still a lot of product though, right? Like there’s a lot of consumers in America smoking these and, and they’re not getting the best, they’re not getting, uh, uh, any sort of transparency.

I know you say all the time, uh, uh, what is it? The, the farms in South Carolina and, uh, North Carolina. North Carolina. And I know there’s some in Illinois, like, like there’s hemp farms in the United States. Right. But are these guys actively in the CBD market or? No, they’re in the THCA

market like you. You can go buy their products and then we’ll have a, uh, legal opinion letter from the Kite law firm saying like, what they’re doing is federally legal.

Right. So that’s what I’m saying.

It’s like, uh. The, the United States government’s actively coming after fucking hemp right now. Right. And, and, and using China and blaming China. Yeah. So like, so there’s a

loophole.

Yeah.

There’s China and they’re coming after China. Mm. Not the loophole.

Where are you going up with this one?

I think I have just saying,

let’s get into, uh, that, that’s it. And so like, let’s the, there there’s some FDA press release, the, and then there’s also the CBP and the CVP of course is Customs and Border Patrol. They also have a quote. The vast majority of these projects originated from China and were intentionally mis declared to evade federal oversight.

They’re intentionally using hemp to evade federal oversight, and the action represents the largest ever seizure of unauthorized e-cigarettes in the us. Now, why did they go after vapes? Instead of THCA flower because of the enabling statutes that granted them the authority to do so. Mm. There ain’t none really for THCA flower.

That’s where I think our next story comes into play. Yeah. And so our story number four, Homeland Security hearing targets, Chinese linked marijuana and vaping businesses. And you might be asking yourself, what the hell is A TCO? You just kind of mentioned that and then like left and, and what does rest ipso toker mean anyway?

Homeland Security Targets Chinese Cannabis Businesses

It means the smoke speaks for itself or the joint. The joint speaks for itself. Either way, you can get these hats, uh, not, not here. Yes. But if you watch our other videos, then you can get the hats or, or the motion to blaze granted shirt. Anyway, we have a story. And so like A TCO is a transcontinental No.

Yeah, transnational criminal organization. So it’s A TCO. The, the Chinese TCOs are now getting blamed. And so on Tuesday, that’s our next story. Uh, so pull that one up. Uh, I think we also have the actual little press release. There it is. Notice of hearing issued on September 11th. Uh, and so they are going to have a House Homeland Security subcommittee on oversight investigations and accountability.

And they want to focus special attention on Chinese Communist Party linked businesses in the United States, cannabis and vaping markets. Lawmakers are raising concerns about money laundering, illegal imports, national security risks with the foreign controlled operations and regulated industries. And so reading the tea leaves, you have a, a bust on China hemp.

Vapes. Yeah. Yeah. And then next week you have a hearing on China and how they’re in the illicit cannabis market. Uh, and then you’ve seen stuff out of Oklahoma or, or Maine, uh, two of the, the states that have like very lax regulations for how you can get a license. Yeah,

yeah.

And then these, these criminal organizations getting in there, speaking of racks lack, uh, really lacks regulations where you can get a license and like, you know, sell weed hemp.

And so you may then see blaming China to tighten the hemp loophole and then go to schedule three. So you license all the producers in the United States.

I mean, that’d be a nice, uh, domino, right? Like if there was really a plan. I just don’t ever think there’s any real, uh, 3D chess going on here.

I

do. If you can blame China

and like, you can’t, you can’t say that you’re gonna be antis small business, but you can say, fuck China.

I, I,

yeah, I, I guess, I guess the squeeze is that, but like I said, I’ve always said there’s gonna be one freaking rule. There’s one plan, right? Like it’s gonna be a, you know, we talked to that nice, that

nice attorney from Canada last week, and then our innocent interview with that nice attorney. And so if you have not become a member or a a, a subscriber, you should subscribe.

Let me go to our media assets and tell you again to subscribe because, uh, you haven’t seen our, uh, interview with the Canadian lawyer about how they regulate all cannabis, the same in Canada and how they legalized it seven fing years ago in Canada. The, the reason why you should watch that and then why I’m kind of pushing the likes and subscribes is because it was marked 18 plus.

As soon as we uploaded it, we don’t smoke in it. We don’t talk about anything besides policy. And why is that 18 plus? Why is that so dangerous? Yeah. Yeah. That the sensors and we appealed and we lost. Why is that so dangerous? I’ll tell you one thing. What’s that? That time? Oh, she did. It’s 20 minutes past the hour, so, uh, smoke.

If you got ’em, we shall return after I hold this for six seconds. Two, one. Now I have to let it heat up. I I should just, I don’t have a pipe at the office. I, I need to get that outta the cleaner. It’s in the cleaners. Lot of occupancy in the floor. There’s that, lots of lawyers and, and police and the city.

Anyway, we’ll be back after a break from our sponsor.

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Okay. But, uh, stay tuned for the next couple of episodes. Uh, m and I’ll get into construction. M’s gonna come out and visit Central Illinois when, uh, about a month. Yeah, buddy. I can’t wait. October 14th,

I’ll be out

there October 14th,

flying in Chicago. Uh, I would like to meet people, so, you know, hit me up.

Cool. Yeah, totally. Then, uh, the 14th, I’ll be getting there probably about like late mid-afternoon. And so I’ll, I’ll have like three solid days to like, do shit and then, uh, probably drive back, fly back. So

it’s just, yeah. We’ll try, we’ll do, uh. We’ll do a couple of interviews with you and then, you know, because I have two really good mics and, uh, yeah.

Ish set up. But then, uh, we will be like, our first month in, it’s supposed to take like two, three months to get the, uh, build out done. And then it takes like two, three weeks for the regulators to come out. Uh, and we will try and so like, I’ll maybe have you call some, ’cause like we have to do the flooring, we have to do the, the signage.

Oh, that’s one of the things you can help with. ’cause we have not yet launched and I, I, I’ve just created the Facebook page. We haven’t started hyping it. We could throw some ads to it and, uh, we want a local artist to help us with our, um, our logos and whatnot that we’ll use because it’s all about getting the local community involved and, and being the local resource for that community and, and the local choice so that we get 50% of the tam.

Now again, you’re like, well, are you just doing this for money? Not just for money, also doing it ’cause it’s the right thing to do.

It, dude, you know, the fact is when I got help gets interest prop two 15, when, when, uh, cannabis was first being recognized as medicine. Right? Like, people are like legit, like it’s medicine.

And then you have like the domino of like the culture, right? People, the festivals, the, you, you know, you’ve been to one couple. Uh, yeah. So yeah, it’s hilarious

that after legalization, festivals

go away. Yeah. Yeah. Because I, I, I think community’s still there. And this is what I’m looking forward to, why I want to come to, to pecan.

And I think we’re being more of a part of something that’s community based, right? That’s just a business, you know? And that’s, I hate to say, like, like we wanna, like, you know, help all the patients. Like I talking to Frank Rogers this morning, who’s locked up, right? Like, it’s so fucking hard to talk to someone who’s in prison, dude.

Like to be like. Uh, he’s like, how, how are you, how are you doing? I’m like, I, I got first world issues, dude. I’m drinking coffee. I’m smoking a brisket. And, um, you know, nursing a hangover, like, like, it was like, I feel bad. You sitting in a, in a cell that’s, uh, I don’t know how big it is, but it’s two bunks, uh, one toilet like this.

His freedom’s been taken away. Like, this is something I’ve been advocating for all, all the life. This is legalization I want is not, is to free people like Frank, you know, and, and they have opportunity to business. But, and again, it has to be, the rules need to be there, right? We need these business rules to take place federally so we can stop locking people up and to being a fucking, uh, you know, low hanging fruit for, uh, you know, weak ass cops.

I don’t, you know what I mean? Like, I just, yeah, it’s so hilarious. That was one of the things that I, I, my, my most recent video has not gotten played very well, but that’s all right. Like, um, I should have. Cut some stuff out of it and still it, it has to do with, uh, the insanity of allowing And maybe I should just do a whole video on it.

Like should odor be probable cause? Hmm. After legalization? Should odor be probable cause? ’cause here in Illinois we have the, the dumbest like set up, uh, uh, in, in any state that I’m aware of, burnt cannabis is not probable cause to search your shit. Raw cannabis is probable cause to search your shit hemp is legal and able to compete against marijuana.

And so your raw probable cause makes no sense because you’ve said that this hemp is legal and I bought it at a smoke shop. And that’s what your dog smelled. Yeah. Yeah, but it’s not burnt so I have probable cause. You, but do you have probable cause to search my shit for raw hemp? Well what’s the difference between raw hemp and raw cannabis?

Nothing. Yeah. Uh. Exactly. And so like that is literally the law in Illinois right now, which makes no sense,

but the law doesn’t make sense, right? Like, like, like there’s a cop out there right now who can tell, who will tell you. I, I, I’ve read an article where he can, he can smell the difference between hemp and marijuana, like are again us.

It’s like, get the fuck outta here.

What are you better than dogs? The dogs are trained and carry offline. I they aren’t trained on like, oh, here’s some THC, here’s some C, B, D ’cause they’re odorless chemicals.

But it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s a low hanging fruit of just like ignoring it and not having something better for the nation, right?

Like, like, like to me, that’s why I’ve been advocating for the, the rule process. Like, it needs to happen so we can stop just getting arrested and, and, and have a chance for these guys who are locked up still to be freed. You know, Frank still got another 10 years to go. Like, I, I couldn’t imagine, uh, uh, seeing all these THC bro.

Selling the book, like it’s bad enough when, when states did it, you know, uh, uh, step by step, right? Like when Craig Cecil came out, you know, he came to Hemp Fest where a hundred thousand people were smoking openly and no one getting arrested. And, uh, uh, it’s you, you try and prove a point, right? You’re like, look, this is a fucking plant.

This is just a, a, a plant that you, you have a relationship with, you know, uh, uh, but also why do we get flagged? Why do we fear speaking upon this? Like in certain states, people are still scared to talk about it. We talked

about federal policy relative to Canadian policy and what we can learn from it. And it was marked 18 plus and we lost the appeal.

Yeah. Yeah. And I’m like, what are the B rolls that I showed? And the B rolls that I showed are nothing like compared to the B rolls that I’ll use that get, get a pass. And so I don’t get it. I don’t get it. Like why? Like if we, whenever we talk about like criminal justice reform particularly. Yeah. So we have somebody on that, uh, has been incarcerated.

Those are the ones that usually get flagged 18 plus or like the, the one about when we talk about the business itself. Yeah. And so that, or that’s demonetized at least. And so that, that video that I did about how much it costs to actually build the dispensary in Illinois, that got demonetized and then it started to blow up and it’s like, like 20,000 views now.

And I’m like, $4. It made

$4. But you know, we, we’ve been here for the, the conversation, right? We, we, we, we started doing this 60 ago, not because like we thought we were gonna have a store. I mean, like, you’ve been in the business for a long time, like you actually are a business type lawyer, right? Like Right.

Whereas I just really love weed. I just wanna like everybody love it or just have the same opportunities, you know, equally and, and you know, it’s. Like why standable? Like we, we have so many, the hemp haters who are, who, who I a painter. Just, and again,

I don’t think we should call him hemp. I think we should call him marijuana.

Like masquerading as hemp or, but that, that doesn’t walk off. Needs to be snappier. And so like, you know, hemp was the stuff that I’ll put on my cereal in the morning. Uh, you know, hemp was seeds, hemp was shirts, hemp was paint, hemp was building materials, hemp was protein shakes. Hemp was never weed. That gets you high until, I mean, like, that’s one of the things, you know, ’cause then all the guys that are selling the weed, it’s all with rod kit’s, like, you know, legal opinion letter.

We can go back six, five years ago when we had him on the show in 2020. Yeah. Where we’re talking about a c, d and lifter. THCA has not mentioned once in that show. Not once.

So, and again, this, this, this is the boring shit of how. People are getting their weed when you order online. Right? Like, like it, it’s just fucking weed.

It’s just shitty weed to me. Right? Like, that’s it. It

it is

the new Mexican

brick weed. That’s, that’s marketing. That’s always been marketing. Chicken and waffles is the name of a strain. Hmm. Because if you would’ve called it, like the name of, its two parents crossed, like, what are you gonna smoke? Are you gonna smoke blueberry?

Are you gonna smoke Afghani tie you smoke blueberry?

I, I, I, that again, it’s all, uh, personal experience and preferences, right? I walk into a store and I just say, Hey, I got 60 bucks. What can I get good for? Uh, a nice synica quarter? You know, I don’t worry about strains no more. I, and that’s the thing too, right?

Like all these fucking hemp people, like, oh, you know, it, it’s, it’s cannabis, it’s weed. We’ll call it wheat. You, you pussy ass. Like, if you wanna be like, oh, we’re, we’re, we’re complying to the 2018. The whole point is not to go to fucking jail. Right? This is why we have all these rules. Or at least pretend, uh uh, like the 2018 Farm Bill, bro.

Uh, it’s legal. No.

If it’s, it’s legal.

Why is marijuana still a schedule one substance? Um, um, wow. It was legal. We wouldn’t have like these weird ass, like right here. This, the next story. DEA national marijuana embarrassment de forces VA to import cannabis after blocking MMJ Bio. I love these guys. ’cause they, they have the, the best like little pressors, the mj uh, biopharm.

They, they,

they, they send out press releases and so that’s what we need. Yeah. Because like we can send out press releases, but then you need to be able to have this kind of. Mental aspect of it. And so, uh, yeah, I’m waiting until we get the cash money for our loan before I send out the press release about we getting the loan.

Uh, you know, because don’t, don’t send out the press release till you get the cash. And so, uh, you know that, but then, you know, there’s, there’s all these things that you can do, and then it gets picked up. This got picked up in you Yahoo. Finance. It was just a press release. Yeah, that’s it. And then you get a quote from the CEO saying some shit.

Uh, and so like, you know, there’s, there’s plenty of crap to go around with, uh, what you should put out as press releases in the SEO, uh, tool that we use. Uh, it, it allows us to do it. And, and it’s a very like affordable price point for the pressors because like these types of press releases, the one that they used was probably like 1500,

$2,000.

You know, I used to like FFR upon them. ’cause uh, I never really understood the infrastructure behind some of these, uh, press release markets, right? Like, like when the stock markets or a business, uh, releases their, uh, financials, right? They use these guys, right? Yeah. So, uh, but in in this one, they’re pointing out how the VA had just recently applied for, uh, you know, again, most people don’t care how the fucking hamburger’s made.

They just want to go to the drive through, right? This is it, bro. This is, is a slight, it’s sexy.

This is hemp. Oh man, I just thought everything was legal now. And like that is the vast majority of people. They don’t, and even then, like they don’t wanna learn about it because they don’t want to have mens rea.

It’s like, look,

you told ’em it was legal. Just gimme the weed. But again, even my wife doesn’t know the rules. Like she asked me when we opened the store, she’s like, so you can’t like take Washington weed to like honey. That’s called, uh, interstate commerce that we are not allowed to do. You know, these are rules that we want and need.

But

no, like, but then that’s why I want schedule three. I mean, not only is it gonna shake out the Chinese TCOs, but schedule three then, especially if everybody’s registered with the DEA and they make their own lane for cannabis, that complies with the rules. Yeah. We should be able to have an interstate commerce.

Interstate market. Yes. A hundred percent Napa, like, I mean like there’s good shit out of Washington state that we could put into our dispensary and have competitive advantage because it’s hard to like the, the, they call it price compression. And then you’re gonna have an interstate market. But that’s why we need outdoor in Illinois.

And that’s also why we need tax reform in Illinois. Like 10%, that’s it. Just 10% excise tax on top of sales tax on top of the municipal tax for all the products. Not 35% on vapes. It just gets people driving to Michigan to buy huge vapes. You know what’s

funny is like people talk about like, you know, like.

Dude, we could sell, we could, we could sell, we could have a store, man. Like we could, if we could just legalize it, right? I could sell this all day. My dream right now, just as you were talking about, like, uh, uh, bringing washing weed would be like to have a wall and then like the map of United States and shells from weed from each state.

You know what I’m saying? In those wallet, like they smoke some Oklahoma weed, let’s smoke some Tennessee weed. But we can’t have that. We can’t have nice things. Not only that, like

our, our customers, they might be like, man, I went there once and it was great, and we could be like, you remember where you went?

Hang on. And that’s like kinda like the leaf link wholesale platform. And so like, you know, if we were able to do interstate, we could put in an order Yeah. For the guy and be like, when it comes in, be like, Hey man, your order’s in, you know, they’re gonna like be so stoked at us if we were able to do that for ’em.

But, and then like, by not having our own brand, like we’re not trying to, we’ll, we’ll try to make deals with local, um, ’cause like one of my clients just came online on Friday. Uh, and so she’s in Springfield. I believe she will literally be the, well, it’s either her or another one of my clients that’s in the quad cities.

And so like the mm-hmm. And he’s like, game to like, give us, uh, some shelf space. And then we have the, um, the, the room adjacent to the dispensary, which is like, you know, the, the, the Casey’s general store. And so I get Casey’s general store, they have some seats. Uh, you can’t, you can’t consume, but we could have, uh, grower nights or like meet the growers types of events.

Uh, right. And then it’s just good for marketing aspects of it. And it’s a little bit different. It’s the stuff that you can’t get at the other ones because you can’t have like a, meet the growers at the dispensary that has a no loitering policy.

What, and again, it’d be great to be like, like some places have like tasty rooms, like for alcohol, right?

Like, like there’s places where people. Do things like adults. You gotta get in first. Yeah,

we gotta be good. We gotta be good stewards. There you go. And then we have to ask, we have to ask for more. It’s just like, you know, go back to 2020 when rock height was talking about lifter and ac DC and, and, you know, CBD like, you know, type three cultivars.

And before he was like, oh, you know, TH Cs, he, anyway, it’s being a to today being hemp. Uh, we can get, we can get to our next story. And that was the, uh, the, the, oh, your,

your boy. Oh. Did you go mute Ram Paul? Uh, Congress. You are mute. Doggy. Oh no, you look at your, uh, button has a little circle. There you go. Oh, hey, we’re back.

Hey, you’re me now. What the fuck? Alright, we have a wait. Well, there you’re,

um, I really gotta tell you.

Can you hear me? I can hear you now, but I, I, I mean, it was just weird to see my picture in the thing

when shit goes wrong. Just keep going on the show.

Oh, I didn’t even realize what was going wrong though.

That’s what I’m saying. Like, I, I, you’re, and then, yeah.

Anyway, I, I wanted to go to, to, to, to go to this story, um, grandpa at the stage. Why? Oh, this one? Okay. Hold on. Lemme remove mine. I see you’re. You’re, you’re, yeah. And so like only one could be on stage at the time. Just like in weed. There could only be one, I guess one rule.

Texas Hemp Executive Order Discussion

But this is a, uh, executive order that is assignable by numerous legal theories. Uh, and so I don’t know how long this will be able to stay in effect in Texas before it is immediately sued by all the people that have made billions of dollars from the thousands of hemp shops that are effectively just dispensaries in Texas that are there.

Uh, they talk about all the, whereas are what they also call recitals. They are just. Documenting the background facts that have actually happened prior to that. And then he gets into his executive actions telling people what to do. This is where they go, like what they call ultra veres. And so that’s, they’re, they’re exceeding their authority, uh, under the law to be able to do these types of things.

Uh, for example, uh, he says, one of the things we want you to do is to create new tests for measuring total delta nine. That is not in the statute. And so the, the legal ar again, like we are in the process of getting our attorney licensed in Texas, uh, because we know that there’s gonna be a lot of lawsuits over the, the, the teacup and then also this might as well.

Uh, but still, uh, there is, uh, aspects with this that you can file lawsuits for that are, uh, way more meritorious than was in, uh, the, uh. Arkansas one that they actually cited by, I mean, it’s just so funny to me as a lawyer that, uh, uh, Abbott was like, Hey, I’m gonna have to veto this ’cause we’re gonna get sued.

And then he does this, and I’m like, you’re gonna get sued. Uh, by, by trying to change the definition to total THC without a congressional oversight doing that, just through executive order, uh, you’re not really able to do that. And then they, they go, they, they continue to exceed their authority, which is, uh, interesting.

And, uh, also, um, probably actionable. So look for the, the injunction to be filed as they try to enforce the, the total THC numbers. Probably not the age gating. I don’t think they’re gonna, like, they’re gonna use the age gating as a cudgel. They’re gonna, and I’m serious, hemp will use your age as a weapon because they will say, you see, we’re regulating ourselves.

Yeah. Uh, we, we checked your id. Uh, while keeping marijuana on the books as a crime. So like they’re, they will sell you a product that if you use it as intended is a crime. Mm-hmm. And they will say that’s legal. Uh, but still, um, they will be able to sue and unless the judge like doesn’t buy it, uh, and it’s, it’s Texas.

So if you’re gonna get a conservative judge, this is the state that you’re gonna get it. Yeah. Still, uh, they have the 10 business days to begin reviewing rules for possible revising testing requirements under that to ensure that test measure total THC content of hemp derived product. Uh, and, and like.

Just like they’re saying now that they can push back. I mean, they’ll get sued, but then those lawyers can push back under the farm Bill saying like, we are through regulations, updating the testing protocols, not under 1639 O, but 1639 p of the farm bill. So like not the definitional section that only sells, says Delta nine, but under the testing section for our um, uh.

Uh, program that we have through rulemaking that is compliant for the total Delta nine Tel, you know, test. And we are being more stringent, so they may be able to win on that if they, if the attorney general’s office from Texas is, is sharp and they should be, because like Texas is huge, they have like 35 million people.

You should like really competent people in their attorney’s general’s office. But, uh, after that, then they get into some other stuff where they’re literally like legislating from Yeah. Uh, the executive action saying like, DHS shall cooperate with tabs concerning the enforcement laws and rules governing hemp products, which may include, uh, and then this was an interesting one with, uh, no, it’s, it’s, it, it’s actually under four because they, they talk about finding out there it is, uh, it’s four C.

And so saying like, the, in Texas a and m, you know. Fuckers. They beat Notre Dame yesterday, but Notre Dame kind of beat themselves, but then they, they, they cite to like House Bill 3 0 9, which didn’t pass, and like a study and like trying to find out, uh, studies for implementation of rules that they will then use as the basis for, I, I’m assuming future legislation.

So provided that this doesn’t have any real teeth and it is just more exploratory and, and waiting on the next one. Awesome. But it says, evidence-based method is for determining intoxication from hemp products for the purposes of preventing, detecting and prosecuting intoxicating related offenses. So they are going to try to figure out that line between, uh, quantifiable THC and excessive THC, which, you know, we really kind of need, if we’re so juvenile that we have to regulate that cannabis plant in two different ways opposed to how they do it in Canada, where they’re just going to have.

Total THC, like, what

was it? Potential, THC. Well, what a waste of time. Like, like instead of like focusing on a hemp, you could actually make a law that would structure protect the growers and supply, because there’s gonna be consumers, people are, you know, $70 million worth of product, 80 million, whatever that was in the beginning, you know, that that’s just tells you there’s people smoke cigarettes, people are gonna smoke shitty stuff.

But like, if you can create a, a, like you said, a, a, a, a rule that’s post-harvest, right? Like this is not kind of a no brainer man. But so, so it was more than just a proclamation though. I, I heard about it, but I didn’t like get into like the, the pages of his, like the layout. Like they’re just trying really just, oh yeah, yeah.

No, it’s, it, it’s gonna be really, really interesting. But I will guarantee that those people that are making all that Jack will sue ’em.

Oh, I’m sure. I mean, they’re definitely gonna, I mean, this, this is the state of freedom or whatever. Like you said, they’re good, but like also they’re like, they’re really good at gerrymandering and, and fucking, uh, a lot of other stuff up.

But like, uh, I just, it is a waste of

time. They try to enforce like a total THC ban. Yeah. You know, they’re going to court or, I mean, but then, you know, if it’s gonna be CPG consumer packaged goods, you are gonna see less of that. But at what dosage? And so like, are you gonna be able to have the a hundred milligram soda?

You know, are you gonna be able to have the 10 milligram, three milligram? Like, where’s the milligram count gonna be? And then it’s still two years before they reconvene, or will he, will he get the data back and then call them back before 2027 when they convene to say like, okay, here’s the results I want this law passed.

Who, who is gonna be affected by this one though? Like, like as far as like, is it the gas station? The entire hemp industry?

They’re all gas

stations. And they’re all, well,

they’re, they’re, or they, they say they’re dispensaries, but they are just like smoke shops, right? Yeah. Well, the

reason why I, I, because I, uh, was watching a little bit of dopa yolo and, uh, he was saying how his lawyer hasn’t contacted them, which is a new rule.

’cause imagine all these TACA bros, uh, are working outta Texas, right? Pine Park, they’re all making that, whatever you do, your, sell your shitty weed. But like, um, I don’t know if the, how these guys are doing business already, right? Like, like we, as we go into the store, we’re tr we’re doing everything by the book, right?

Everything is, like you said, good stewards. They don’t have a

license.

And so if

you don’t have a license, yeah. Then you just say like, well, this, you can say something, but you gotta prove it. You gotta prove about 90% plus, uh, in cr in court for, uh, criminal action. So come at me, bro. I got $50,000, I got my lawyer on lockdown.

And so then the, the lawyers are enablers. Okay.

Yeah. Right. That makes sense. I mean, I just, what a waste of time. Fucking, this is again, holding pattern, baby. We, we ain’t getting shit federally, I don’t think for,

well, that’s one of the reasons why, why I blame them so much is because we have to deal with your bullshit.

You really didn’t change anything.

Yeah. Yeah. I, I think they helped get the conversation going, because there is a billion medical marijuana helped get the conversation going. No, it started the conversation.

Yeah. And then it completely derailed the conversation from medical marijuana to like, nah, man, this is HHC, it’s completely legal hemp.

It’s all right. Or like, nah, man, this is THCA flour. It’s completely legal. Don’t light it on fire. Otherwise, like, like what I just said is not true. You know, it’s funny though. It was, even when it was tested a month before it was harvested,

but living in a state, that was one of the first ones to legalize it.

Like, I got these, you know, these disposable vapes and a lot of, and I’ve said before, a lot of products I see now that people have seen are innovative. This, it’s been going on for a long time. Like here in 2012. Before that, you know, the, in the, in our medical market, we had the vapes, the toothpicks, uh, everything was fused.

I mean, I mean, you saw what happened with CBDs, right? Like, who the fuck refuses a pillow? But like people do that trying to find a market, whether it be legit science or just some sort of like, uh, trust me, bro, shit. Right? Like, like those bumps were stupid.

Like those Oh my god. Weed bumps. Mm-hmm. I was so dumb.

But anyway, let’s go to our next story where, uh, Rand Paul says the quiet part out loud,

so I didn’t, uh, get into this. What, uh, you got it right?

Oh, this was a great one. And so, uh, Rand Paul, I, uh, he was interviewed, uh, by, uh, a, uh, news station. And so he says a lot of stuff about it. And the best, the best quote is, uh, when it comes down to Paul says those small amounts are what the products are effective and wanted completing, banning, THC would destroy Kentucky’s hemp industry.

He said the product where if you buy the product, there would be no THC in it. No measurable THC. I don’t think anybody would buy those products because frankly, the THC, even a little bit of it is probably what helps make people more calm, sleep better or less anxiety. Now he is a doctor, from my understanding.

Isn’t Rand Paul a doctor, like a foot doctor? Am I wrong on that? He’s like a foot doctor, but he’s still a doctor, so he understands how the FDA works. Hmm, that’s a good point. Yeah. And so he’s talking about an unscheduled non-drug being used as a drug. Yes. He is a doctor. He’s an ophthalmologist. So I Oh, hi doctor.

Uh, right, but isn’t cocaine used for your eyes? Isn’t that what cocaine was prescribed for? I don’t know. I’m not, I I, my eyes are okay-ish, but, um, still interesting. It’s, it’s hilarious that he’s talking about the only reason people buy hemp products. Or because of the THC in it for its drug-like effect.

Mm. Yeah, I get that. But it’s such a redundant, dumb conversation goes, man. Like, like that’s why we, we do things because it feels good. You know what I mean? You have an endocannabinoid system, you don’t have a meth system. Uh, I don’t know, man. I think we focus too much on THC at least. Uh, but that is with the divider, right?

Between legal and not legal. That’s the shitty part. You know, I think it adds to the perception of like the higher THC, the better weed or whatever bullshit people want based the purchases off of. But

yeah, I’m thinking we should have a talk to the audience bit and then see how many super chats we can get.

Hell yeah.

Hey, you’re peaking. If you’re in Illinois,

you gotta pay for

streamy yard. It’s 800 bucks a year, bro. Shit. No, man. I appreciate we fuck with us and we got 440 today. It’s a fucking good day with y’all.

Hey, then let’s, let’s show ’em what we’re fighting for, even though. There we go. Oh yeah. And so, we’ll, we’ll get better at that, but here we go.

Name That Strain Game Segment

We’re gonna play some name. That string

gonna mess this, this one told you gonna mess this. Uh, we’re going classic on this one. Yes. Uh, is what do I would I would say this is an actual land race. Yeah. San ain’t no cross on that boss right there that you’re looking at. Uh, that is probably what I guess real, uh, land, race inas look like. Uh, they have orange hair.

Um. Kind of compact buds that are not quite golf ball size. And so I’m assuming that it’s not, it’s not OG Kush by the way, or that may have been more of a cross. It is not more red, it is a hundred percent indica hint right there.

This is the kinda shit like you get, um, back in the day before any sort of legalization and I would just call it red hair Wilson, some red hair.

Oh. Oh no. Like my guy Shaggy from college. He would have the names, but it would always be, um, and so like they, I, I think I, I had this, this one. Um, or he might’ve just said the second name. Oh, okay. Give a shout out to Karen. Karen Bolen. Hey, she’s got any questions, let us know.

Thanks for hanging girl.

Yep.

Uh. No, this is not Northern Lights. Northern Lights I think is actually across, like it predates Northern Lights, nor Northern Lights is like a real legacy strain that’s, you know, decades old. This one is a land race. It’s centuries old or, or, or more. It’s not Golden goat. Again, same thing.

It’s definitely the kind of weed you remember though, you smoke it.

It is literally named

after a

location where famous indica weed grows. See no other variety with such a pronounced inseed and sandalwood flavor released when the buds are handled or consumed. Sandalwood.

Yep. Okay. This one’s really cl. This one’s close. That one’s close, but it’s not quite there. Woohoo. Oh, there we go.

Thank you Tom Patterson, now member for 13 months helping out the streamy yard cost. But again, like, and Nepal is also close. Uh, this one’s really close. You have to think about certain names of mountains. Not Afghani, but mountainous areas. Cush is right. Oh yeah. Not Pakistan, but actually it may be close to Pakistan.

Thailand is, is, is, is a sativa. And so it’s not Thailand. It’s in that area of the mountains. Nobody has gotten that, that first word of it. But, uh, I think if you go further up between Afghanistan and Nepal, you’ll run. There it is, you. Now. Now one more word and you have put it together. Look at baby. Put together.

Put that one with another one. Syllable word. Yep. Hindu. What? Hindu. Fry. Fry. Bueller. Bueller, Hindu. Kush, we are looking for Hindu Kush. That is, thank you. That’s what we were looking for. Hindu Kush. That is the name of the strain for today. And again, we went with, uh, real old school stuff. And that is, uh, Hindu Kush, a hundred percent, uh, indica.

And these seeds in particular are, uh, from sensei seeds, which would not be impacted by the, um, the hemp ban because like, again, every version of the new definition of hemp that I’ve read gets rid of seeds. And we don’t like that. We, we, we can test that. We want seeds to stay Hemp. We need that shirt, dude.

Save the seeds. Save the seeds. All right, we’ll, we’ll get, we’ll get the Save the Seeds shirts, and then we’ll do like a, uh, fundraiser. And then we need a, um, uh, like a. Some type of pamphlet or, uh, document that you sign that you then send to your legislature saying like, this new definition of hemp is bollocks.

Don’t use that American’s version of bollocks is bullshit. And so, and then say, cross out where it says seeds. I get it. We don’t want synthetics. We, we don’t want the heroine of weed being legally hemp. We don’t, uh, and so no semisynthetic, uh, you know, cannabinoids. Thank you. We’ll just keep the natural ones.

Uh, I get it. You want a THC Limit seeds have zero.

Okay. Why sustainable? You’re an asshole, but I appreciate your interactions. Gotta keep them. Feed the algorithm, baby.

Oh, no. Yeah, that there’s, there’s some trolls that we have to deal with and that’s fine. But yeah, let’s talk about the stuff that they like.

This, this will be probably, these will be, uh, stocked at the store. Under the 18 plus age. Yeah, the age gate. And so like in the age gate, ’cause like, I think we’re allowed to sell these on the floor, so the floor will just, it is like, I’m not putting up empty boxes of shit. Like you, when you go to buy a cereal, there’s a box of cereal with it.

Right. When you go to the liquor store, you don’t see like, empty beer bottles. I mean, this is just Coca-Cola. Like if I’m gonna go buy Coca-Cola, like me seeing like, oh my gosh, an empty Coca-Cola bottle, I’m gonna go buy that. You know, it just, it doesn’t make any sense to me. But, um, that’s what like a lot of, uh, dispensaries in the Illinois, Missouri area where you’re not allowed to have products on the floor do, uh, I think instead we should have, um, coolers with hemp beverages in them that you have to walk by to get to the.

The, you know, that’d be nice. You know, we, um, here in my, my pa shop, I like to go to, they have a fridge, but they don’t, uh, fill their drinks. They have fucking dabs in there.

Hmm. We are not allowed to do that under regulations. You are not allowed to have any refrigeration for, well, you might be able to refrigerate the product in, in the holding company area, but you are not allowed to have any products that require refrigeration.

So you can’t have like ice cream.

Yep. Oh man. Oh, see, this is what sucks about the rules, man. Like, I really would love to sell some ice cream and uh, uh, you know, dabs are fine. I mean, that’s just good, uh, for storage, but like, damn, why no fucking fridges? Like, I mean, a chill, like a, a chill storage. It is literally in the rules.

That’s why. That’s it. So we can’t have a cooler then too then.

So that wouldn’t be an option. Oh. No, you’re talking about a regulated product versus a non-regulated product. The cooler is for hemp beverages that are outside the jurisdiction of the regulators.

But like, uh, would we, I mean, isn’t, wouldn’t be having a cooler even though the product fucking legal or whatever.

No, they, they wouldn’t frown upon that. They wouldn’t be like a You have story, you frowned upon it maybe,

but like, it’s, it’s what can they do? You know? Like, I will do what the law says and they will too. That’s the deal. I mean,

you know, these guys, so the, being that the TAC beverage market is so huge now, you know, billion dollar industry, it, it’s the thing, it’s kinda like with a hemp, it, it propagates this bullshit fucking, uh, existence with the law for, for people.

Right. The rescheduling would definitely affect this, wouldn’t it as well? Like it would just all fall under this umbrella. No. Eventually, no.

No, they, they, they need a new hemp bill to allow these beverages to be in compliance of the Food Drug Cosmetic Act.

Because it’s an next drug.

Because it’s a drug and they’re putting it in the food supply.

And that’s a big no-no. And also because there’s no rules at all for the hemp plant after it’s harvested.

But we, yeah, I was gonna say, when you say it’s a drug though, you’re, you’re

saying a drug because it’s a, it is literally a Schedule one drug, but it’s THC or it’s CBD. And so it’s either schedule one or a Schedule five or a schedule three, if it’s, if it’s an analogous to marital.

And so the FDA’s Dunning letters, like now the FDA’s actually doing raids. Huh? That’s new. Um, and, and so are they gonna, are they gonna raid, you know, all these, uh, Delta eight producers that they are, they already kind of did, you know, uh, and what are they gonna do next? They’re gonna blame China. And then eventually, I think the only thing they’re gonna have left is the beverages.

Maybe some low dose cum. What’s the dose?

That’s so gross. I, I just don’t like the go market. It’s so weird how that just took off.

But, um, yeah, so that’s the, that’s that new story. THC beverage is already really popular. Uh, THC beverage is PO passed 1 billion to, the potential market value is between 10 and 15 billion small.

So they could still go 10 to 15 times.

And again, it’s the same plan. It’s gonna be a fucking one rule, I believe, like once you process it. Canada doesn’t have the issues in 10 years. Yeah. Again, Canada,

we got Missouri. Missouri. This one, uh, may go the way the dinosaur because it might get hit by a new definition of hemp, which would crush.

Missouri Cannabis Reform Updates

There’s a couple of things. And so they’re trying to repeal the 41 page constitutional amendment, the legalized recreational marijuana in 2022. So that’s gonna meet with, uh, a lot of lobbyist fervor. And so the hemp industry is trying to turn Missouri into Oklahoma and say that hemp is weed, weed’s, hemp.

You don’t need to have any regulations and everybody can have a license and sell whatever weed they want to sell. That’s the, uh, the gist of the, the bill that they’re trying to get onto the ballot. And so they may now have to see how many of these signatures they have, have they already got it? They, this, they have a petition.

So stay tuned to see how this petition wraps up. But, uh, you’re gonna see big hemp and big weed fighting it out in Missouri, unless we blame China. The feds change the rules and then big hemp is just yanked and there’s no, there’s no way that it passes.

And again, there’s no fucking protections for the citizen.

This is all about business. Any, and that’s why I think he’s even funny. It’s all about making money and you don’t Yeah. But like the champion for the hemp thing to me, uh, it’s a shill. It’s a, it’s a, and I get some people that’s their medicine, but it’s not like,

but then

again,

like if your medicine is literally not medicine or regulated, that sucks.

Yeah. Why would you want your medicine to be something that a snake oil salesman sells you? ’cause he has a COA

if, if it’s a real COA.

Exactly.

Yeah. There’s, and you trust him. Mm-hmm. I mean, that’s the thing, right? We, we as a, a woo woo. Thanks again. And like, we don’t do

that with Yeah. We, we don’t do that with any other drug.

Like if you’re doing that with a drug, Hey, it does this stuff and you can believe us. Here’s a COA. Uh, no, what the hell is that? You know, truly down the street started advertising Upward drink. It’s an energy drink with THC mixing caffeine with THC. It sounds like it’s a no-no. In uh, Texas it’s gonna be probably a no-no in many states, maybe not in, uh, Florida because Florida Craig Gray.

Uh, and anyway, the other thing is you can’t mix it with THC at all because of the Food Drug and Cosmetic Act. So the, the, the packaging that will try to be compliant and the product that’s got that compliant packaging is not compliant. So they need legislative reform to allow these two drugs, THC and CBD, to be placed into the food supply.

Well, part of that, what we talked about before, ’cause you know, no one likes to talk about the sexy rules, but like, uh, you know, you need to establish, uh, uh, uh. The DEA in the FDA, right? For, for the bio. Once you start with the plant and then you stress it, turn it into a hash or that becomes a different product, right?

We’ve talked about this where it’s not a, ideally everybody can just go with the fucking cell. No, they say that’s

still hemp. And so that’s the problem that I have with hemp, especially when it comes to like even delta nine, because they, they take the hemp plant, the A, it’s a type three cultivar, so it’s got a 21, uh, ratio of THC to C, B, D.

So it’s at, at, at its best. It’s probably 20% th I’m sorry, 20% C, B, D, and 1% THC total, THC, not TH, c adult nine. Just, and, and that would be like, it doesn’t get that high, like, you know, it was probably closer to like 15 and 0.6, you know, but you know, 21 ratio, keeping the numbers easy and so that would be kind of what hemp was supposed to be.

Therefore you can make a lot of C, B, D isolate, C, b, D oil. And so then they take that, they call it hemp, and then they do chemistry to. This is like the difference between, um, uh, this is the difference between, what was the one before? Heroin morphine. So this is the difference between morphine and heroin.

So you have the, the, the, the original isolate that you have from the poppy plant. So you have the morphine or you have the original isolate that you have from the, the hemp plant. You have CB isolate. And so that CBD isolate is hemp and then they do chemistry to it, right? Maybe they’re going to only turn it back into delta nine THC, but that is a semisynthetic process that they did.

And they go, like some people, because they make money on it, they say, well, I trust the chemist. And I’m like, okay, cool. And so then, um, the other stuff they can do is more chemistry where they can make it into delta eight, delta 10, uh, H-H-C-T-H-C-O-T-H-C-J-D-T-H-C-P, all these other weird things that are technically feasible.

And they continue to call it hemp, which I don’t, because it says all derivatives. So the CBD isolate, it doesn’t say. All semisynthetic derivatives isolated from the derivative. Okay. But they don’t care. And then a lot of judges at the federal level are political appointments, so they aren’t really,

they aren’t

appointed for their, their

acumen.

They’re appointed for their loyalty. To get to the point where we have that interstate commerce, we need these organizations to create rules for the just intoxicating plant, right? Like,

right,

that’s right. Even tomatoes have rules, right? Like there’s, yep. I’m sure like there’s, uh, there’s FDAD rules, agricultural type based rules.

Uh, you know what’s funny, dude? Uh, this last article from, uh, I of man, uh, is very reefer madness, like, uh, it’s England.

We may have an English co-host to discuss the English laws. So like stay tuned next week for that, because if you don’t see it live, when we try to put it out as an actual edited podcast, it’ll probably be 18 plus.

Oh yeah.

Or flagged or always, always shadow band. But, uh, uh, it reads like a bad, like a woman turned to dealing cannabis after using the drug to self-medicate. Like she, apparently it’s expensive. No shit. Things are expensive. And so she’s decided to, to be a middleman. Right? I don’t know, it just seems like, like, and then the judge, uh, saying it saddens me to see someone with your background in court.

Like the stigma shaming you for doing weed. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I, I find it so dumb. Like, I just felt like, again, waste of time. Like, like people villainize, consumers, they villainize this plant. Uh, you know, uh, uh, why don’t you get a real job? Yeah. Hey, least we’re not on OnlyFans. Well, I mean, then we wouldn’t get shadow banned.

No, actually, we probably would. Two grown men talking about weed for an hour and still kind of like two goofballs. I mean, you know what I’m mean? Like no people. It’s just a real industry billion dollar both, uh, elicit and regular. But we need that regular market so everybody can have an opportunity just to fucking go to the store and buy weed like I do.

Um, yeah, right. We got, uh, Nebraska News, cannabis commission limits, number of marijuana plants cultivators can grow in Nebraska. That’s, uh, how population of Nebraska, though is probably like a small town.

Nebraska Cannabis Program Limitations

Uh, Nebraska’s a 1.8 million. The problem with Nebraska is just like the other ones, uh, they’re gonna get sued.

They’re gonna get super sued. So, like Nebraska right now, until the third to 23rd has, uh, a round open for only four grows. It’s supposed to be, it’s, it’s free to like apply, but you have to be 51% owned by a Nebraskan. You have to have real estate locked up and you also have to have like, knowledge and experience.

No, Nebraskan should be able to have any knowledge and experience if they’ve been living in Nebraska because they have no, they have no program, uh, which is, it’s just weird why they put that in there. But then again, the 51% that gets back to the dormant commerce clause. Then they have, like this, this most recent one, they said plant count.

Yeah. That, that was not in what the people passed. The ballot. Okay. And so the, the regulators are going what they call beyond their power ultra raises is the, the Latin. And they are creating rules that’s not in the legislation. The legislation or the, the thing that was passed by the people says the, all the cannabis plant.

Um, now the, what the, the, the rules say is you can’t even have flower. And so like, they’re, they’re going beyond, which was said. And, and because of that, they also have litiga. And so that was one of the things in their secret, uh, uh, regulator meeting this past week was closed door discussion for eminent litigation risk.

They know they’re gonna get sued. That’s, and like Rhode Island wants a program. Kentucky wants a program, Minnesota wants a program. Minnesota tripped on its own stuff and kinda like how New York did, but they want a program. Mm-hmm. And so, yeah, they’re gonna screw up, but they want a program. Uh, and Rhode Island, I don’t think it’s gonna screw up near as much.

They’re more like Kentucky. They wants a program, but. Here’s how we’re rolling it out. We’re gonna roll it out. We’re done. No funny stuff. Uh, Nebraska is more like, I don’t wanna do this. I don’t wanna do it either. We have to do it. We don’t have to do it. Well, you know what, if we did it so poorly that we got sued, go on.

Well, let’s have a

closed door meeting about this. I mean, it’s a fortunate though, like you have a real opportunity to create, uh, a change. Something that would be, uh, good financially, uh, society wise, you know, uh, wasn’t a, uh, anyway, that guy. All kinds of bad jokes in my head right now. Uh, but yeah, man, it’s been a good hour.

Appreciate it, buddy. Yep.

Yeah, I know. Uh, that brings us basically to our final thought. You know, here we are. What do we do all week? Uh, we, when we’re trying to connect the dots here, we see like all this stuff, DOJ uh, HS, you know, CCPB, all and FDA. Everybody’s coming and what are they doing? They’re blaming China and they’re blaming hemp and they’re blaming marijuana.

Final Thoughts and Wrap-up

And so what’s the quickest way to kill the farm Bill loophole? It’s not to say we ate hemp, you know, it’s not to invite that thing that happened in Texas where they lobby the crap out of it. Say that the small businesses go to the capitol. The easiest way to kill it is to say this is benefiting Chinese TCOs, trans criminal organizations.

So when you have HHS and and CPV and like DOJ going to Chicago to yank $70 million, 4.7 products, uh, for being illegal hemp, you know, too much Delta nine in the product. And then on Tuesday what’s gonna happen? I don’t know. But they have a lot of problems with the Chinese in marijuana and illicit marijuana in Oklahoma, in Maine, and maybe also in hemp.

And so this is reason to tighten the screws and say that we have to change this law to prevent Chinese organized crime. Not to prejudice small business. Uh, and that’s what I think’s coming. I could be wrong, you know? Uh, but that’s why we had that, the, the little logo saying Game over. Worst week ever. I mean, we see, we see Congress yanking back, uh, the funding for Schedule three.

Maybe that’ll get taken out, maybe it won’t. But it seems like if you really wanted to get the Chinese TCOs out, you license everybody who’s got a license that follows the rules that the Fed State to ensure that no Chinese companies are profiting off of the cannabis industry in the United States. And that means you gotta change the hemp definition, and that means you gotta go to schedule three.

Will it happen? I hope so, but we’ll see.

It’s ’cause you can only have all oligarch money, man. Don’t you know? Not, not, not that Chinese money, but you know, him didn’t legalize shit as long as people like Frank Rogers will sit in jail. So like, you know, uh, you know, look up Frank Rogers and cannabis and you’ll, you’ll find his case.

And you know, these guy people still locked up. Uh, still a long way to go.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And so we’ll be here again next week doing this thing, uh, because we’ll, we’ll, we’ll maybe even have a guest. I’ll follow up with the guy from England. Uh, and thanks to our Super chats for this past, uh, you know, conversation.

That was nice. Yeah. And then also to our members, they get the videos first and they also get us to like, interact with them and their names and the credits. They’re coming now. Oh yeah. Stay tuned to the next video. See you guys.